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I understand over at the cube their current outgoing President is a lame duck now. It sounds like you people have the same issue with your President. However, I think you call him Daffy Duck and his side kick, Donald Duck.
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KKR/CD&R are probably wondering what they've gotten themselves into. The probelms posted on InsideFood are the same ones we've been reading about for years. It's a wonder that KKR/CD&R haven't started selling off divisions. That's why we have eight regions instead of the four we used to. It'll be easier to sell off that way.
During the Jim Miller era, our division had to go out and lease outside freezer space to house the 1,000's of cases that we were told we had to take. It was also during that time our division went from 200 to 80 sales people.
Quote: Originally Posted by EcoliUSF is falling fast - None of this is really surprising given they're following the tried and failed “Jim Miller” purchasing driven model. Those of us who were around all remember the statement “we purchase to create demand”. The “new” USF purchasing driven model may have gotten a facelift with Monarch, but it’s just the “Miller” model with more makeup. Forced conversion to Monarch products and increased pads are nothing more than an effort to gain short-term profitability for the sale of the company. This short-term focus has been the death of more than one US company. The current owners are more than willing to sacrifice the long-term future for their short-term gain. In the end, I’m confident they’ll get their required return on investment. Once they're gone the new owners will learn like Royal Ahold they bought a house of cards and an unsustainable business model. Isn’t it amazing how history repeats itself; and all in just a few years.
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Quote: Originally Posted by IKNOWYOUI understand over at the cube their current outgoing President is a lame duck now. It sounds like you people have the same issue with your President. However, I think you call him Daffy Duck and his side kick, Donald Duck. IKY
IKY, JJ isn't a lame duck, but I think Corporate and KKR/CD&R are on his ass to get our numbers up. JJ and FJ cancelled all special pricing and deviations to show things are improving. Meanwhile everyone is unhappy. Late trucks, lots of out-of-stocks, especially toward the end of the month. This isn't what I signed up for.
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I know he's not a Lame Duck in the true meaning. The term Daffy Duck came to mind with all that's happening over there. Keep those card and letters coming in.
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USF is getting rid of the people who have always sucked at what they did. THE LAZY. I look forward to several others leaving soon. I have a feeling that a large amount of the people signed up for this is in sales or are one of the many that will soon be gone. No talent, no pride, lazy.
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US is trying to profitize over the short run ... results are not good and an easy way to get better results over the short run is to shoot as many established employees as possible and roll in the rookies. Why is anyone surprised at this behavior and strategy? Why is anyone surprised that USFS is taking the "short run" solution instead of investing in the future?
I also agree that US is moving forward with ill - advised procurement strategies ... again, swapping lines is a great way to get good short term income but is foolhardy of the long run ... my guess is USFS houses can look forward to pallets and pallets of merchandise that doesn't sell.
Ridiculous!
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Were you let go from La Mirda? If you say your numbers were good and you were growing your business, then what would be the reason for you to be let go. And if you think you could take all your business with you if you decide to go to the competition, then I would say, cut yourself a fat 2 year contract and show your DSM and whom ever what you can do to destroy that budget.
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Call your competitor NOW. See what they can offer you. Take em down.
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Quote: Originally Posted by IKNOWYOU
Call your competitor NOW. See what they can offer you. Take em down.
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LBO, Sorry to hear you were let go. You sounded like the type of young fireball USF needs to gain market share and move up. IKY is correct. Call one of your competitors, preferably, an independent, and see what they have to offer. Make sure they are a broadliner and can offer similar products and services to USF. (Dishmachine, coffee, E&S specialists) I don't know about non-competes in PA or NJ. They are hard to enforce. I think if your customers know how bad you got screwed, after you busted your butt last summer to get them, you may be able to bring quite a few over. Good luck. I hope you stick it to USF.
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The ship is sinking and there aren't enough lifeboats for everyone. If you're a TM don't wait until you've lost your customers to the competition because you'll have no value. Your value is in what you can bring. Leave before it's too late. The grass is greener on the on the other side.
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The grass is always greener until you get there and it dies. Work with the grass you have and use your skills and knowledge to help make it greener. |
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The sweet feeling of seeing the past management of the US Foods houses in Florida working the food shows and the streets for broker firms and as street sales people for smaller distributors is soooo sweet. The manufacturers that are hitching to their wagon will deserve the shaft that is coming |
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I’m here to tell you the grass is greener on the other side, but you can ignore the facts and stay at USF. I really don’t care if you choose to repeat an old saying which may or may not apply, that’s for you to decide. After leaving USF I’m just letting people know there is a better way to make a living than working for USF. Stop and think for yourself! How many owners and companies have been combined to create the current USF? Let’s see, Jim Miller, Ahold, KKR and whoever comes next. We had JP Foodservice, Old USF, Monarch and all the independents combined to create the mess called USF. Anyone who has been a USF any length of time has been through a roller coaster of events and changes and it’s going to continue for the foreseeable future. USF will continue to try to “reinvent” itself and struggle to find their way through more and more changes. Look at Linc, Monarch and all the other initiatives they’re pushing. How much of this is just throwing stuff on the wall and seeing what will stick? While all of this is going on you’re losing customers and losing your future benefit. You can say whatever you want about Sysco, but they aren’t in a constant and continuous state of finding themselves. They are successful and have a model that works. If you really know your business and are willing to work than you can succeed at Sysco. If you're staying at USF I'd be really interested in knowing why. Are there any good reasons to stay? I guess if you're only 2 years away from retirement or ????
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Falling apart is an understatement. I am part of U.S Cleveland, and I will give this much. At least this year they got rid of some people that needed to go, unlike last year. Certainly more justified job eliminations. I guess Michelin Man is learning a teenie bit about foodservice, NOT. Anyway, when you see Security cars parked in the parking lot, because it is Position Elimination week, it is a telling sign of the changes we have had over the last few years. We are all under a microscope like bacteria in a test lab. They don't have a clue about CULTURE and the importance of it. Numbers far outweigh the importance of people in their systems. After much thought and having been with the organization for several years, I have finally begun to seek employment somewhere else. I just cannot work for this company any longer. I cannot submit my family to the fact that every November we must be on pins and needles, while we figure out if we are going to be employed or not. Regardless of contribution to the company. They don't care in their world. It is just sad to see where we have gone. |
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I am a newbie to this as I am new to usf. is it really this bad can usf really treat their people as bad as you say...... This kind of puts me on my heels after all the turnover I have seen in the past year in usf. I thought it was normal to revamp the face of a co. after a few years but from what I am reading usf does this allot.. with being some what new this doesn't make me feel to secure in a job with usf-----.... Should I be keeping my options open and looking at the other co.'s
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