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FoodPro100
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    Jan 22, 2009 at 07:06 PM
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I heard they are on the verge of losing another multi-unit called the Back Bay Group. A good source told me that the Back Bay is paying Perkins slowly and that Perkins is applying pressure to catch the account up. Anyone know if US or Sysco is in the Back Bay Group? Also all kind of layoffs projected. I even heard that Gary Perkins has voiced complaints in the open about excessive snow plowing bills with all the snow lately and also that they find him walking the halls in the office shutting lights to save energy. Also any one heard about an account called Upper Crust Pizza. I'm looking to move some of my business to another distributor and I am trying to find out a contact there to make the call. Help would be appreciated.

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    Jan 22, 2009 at 08:15 PM
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If Back Bay Group is paying Perkins slow, I doubt USF or Sysco would want them.


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FoodPro100
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    Jan 23, 2009 at 05:03 PM
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Back bay pays Perkins slow because they know that Perkins is just happy they service them so they take advantage of them. The problem for Back bay is they are paying extra for this extended term plan because Perkins is not competitive and its hurting Back bay even more financially. From what I found out today Sysco is also servicing Back Bay and paying them on time. They probably are just keeping Perkins around because they are stringing them out on terms because they can.

paperman
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    Jan 24, 2009 at 05:44 AM
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Back Bay was really our first real food service account. They do pay us late but so does 60% of our food service accounts. As far as being competitive we aren't not even in the paper. From what i understand we have been buying some paper from CH Berry lately because we cant make minimums. I cant compete anymore with the Syscos and US Foods of the world on paper products. Even companies like Agar are cheaper on alot of paper. Its obvious the suppliers give them better deals because they see we are focusing more on food. Gary and Larry Perkins basically do nothing as far as operations of the company and they leave everything up to there unqualified employees.

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    Jan 26, 2009 at 07:08 PM
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Have you guys at Perkins had anymore layoffs?? We have had a few of your salesman and drivers/warehouse apply for jobs with us. Seems like everyone is starting to feel the crunch. Where hearing rumors through our district managers that a big acquisition is on the horizon and that Perkins may be sold soon.Our districts are telling us that Citizens Bank is putting the squeeze on Perkins and there leveraged with the bank for over 30 mil for there facility.

FoodPro100
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    Jan 27, 2009 at 04:06 PM
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Some of the other messages on the board are suggesting PFG is looking at acquiring Perkins? It seems some of the PFG people are hearing of a big move coming down the pike. That would be interesting but good if this is true. Anyone hear anything about this?

paperman
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    Jan 30, 2009 at 04:38 PM
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Something is definitely going on but I'm not sure if its PFG looking at us. Sales have been pretty bad with us and they are coming down on us to collect money. Paper sales have been struggling also. Citizens bank is definitely our bank and it wouldn't surprise me if they are having a hard time borrowing. One of upper management tells me we are trying to get out of lease obligations with Penske on trucks we don't need. I'm surprised how quickly things have changed at Perkins. We were cruising along pretty good for awhile and now it seems everything is crashing. Hopefully Gary and Larry didn't have any money invested with Madoff.

Tips100
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    Jan 31, 2009 at 07:47 PM
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If they owe that kind of money to the banks I doubt they have anything invested with Madoff. If anything it looks like they are pulling a Madoff on Citizen's Bank.

FoodPro100
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    Feb 04, 2009 at 02:36 AM
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We have noticed that are invoices take longer to pay and we have to call for payment. They are probably prioritizing who gets paid. Have they made changes in management yet? The dope I deal with never returns calls and they seem to order product when they run out.

paperman
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    Feb 04, 2009 at 03:23 PM
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No changes in management yet but I do know they finally are cutting some of the salaries with the overpaid food salesman we have. A few of us veterans heard that they are disgruntled over it. More cuts in salaries to come from what we hear.

tired
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    Feb 04, 2009 at 04:16 PM
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Management is on top of the non performers that add no new accounts and just service there regulars from there home. Its a new year and there will be changes especially with the lazy Famoso salesman. The whole crew is shaking in there pants and its finally nice to see management realize these people are taking advantage of a good company and going no where fast. We productive salesman have been waiting for management to start shaking them up. And as far as the suppliers on this site that complain of lack of sales on there lines its due mainly because your lines aren't worth a damn to the rest of the Perkins sales force and your company is counting on a gang of lazy bastards to sell the garbage. Hopefully management takes your lines along with the worthless buyers handling it and rids of you all! Seems this is the best way to get rid of your false postings.

FoodPro100
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    Feb 04, 2009 at 06:31 PM
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Seems like we have hit a nerve with a Perkins veteran whatever that means. Is this an accomplishment to be a Perkins veteran? The only thing I agree with you on is that if we are expecting to grow at Perkins with just the Famoso crew, your right we wont. This is not what we were told by your two dorky owners and the rest of the crew. We were told that all the Perkins salesman would get behind the Famoso brands and that the business would grow double to triple the volume. Its obvious your company is not united because we see a separation of paper guys and food guys instead of the whole sales force as one and this is the reason Perkins is a joke in food service. Your just pissed because the Famoso guys probably make more $$ than you and the veterans. Sound like your problem isnt with us vendors but with your management for getting involved with food.

Tips100
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    Feb 06, 2009 at 03:58 AM
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I share an account with a Perkins/Famoso salesman and can confirm that they are slashing salaries. The account that we share said that the salesman was complaining about Perkins and that they cut his pay and that he was pissed and not happy. If they were making more than the veterans thats probably coming to an end. Also noticed Perkins buying alot of product second hand instead of direct and have seen there truck picking up at Agar quite a few times. The Italian accounts out there are wide open to anyone since Famoso sold to Perkins because they dont have the right products anymore or price but instead have retail stuff that does not sell.

tired
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    Feb 08, 2009 at 05:00 AM
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How do you know that we are not delivering product to Agar? Also to the question of Perkins salesman getting behind the Famoso program. The reason Famoso did so well with the Italian segment was because they were selling product at margins we cant compete on with our corporate structure. Obviously we have more expenses than they did and the accounts they serviced are very price conscious. We are behind the products but we also need to make a decent profit and cant be expected to compete with the smaller distributors in the market. What we can offer is service and a larger variety to these accounts which sometimes is worth paying a little extra for. As far as one of the salesman from Famoso being disgruntled, he is lucky to still have a job and to not be one of the several layoffs we have already had.

FoodPro100
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    Feb 08, 2009 at 06:21 PM
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That makes alot of sense. You should do yourself a favor and quit posting replies on behalf of Perkins because it letting the food service community realize that the stupidity trickles down from the top of management to the bottom. How can anyone buy a company and later realize the margins are not high enough and lose the business. Who ever is in charge of acquisitions over there is a complete moron. Wouldn't there be research into this before buying the company? I'm sure the owners of Famoso are probably in Aruba by now sipping martinis and laughing all the way to the bank. I also seriously doubt your delivering to Agar. Perkins is the biggest supporter of there competitors in the state.

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