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FoodPro100
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Registered: Dec 19, 2008
Posts: 32

    Jan 11, 2009 at 07:21 PM
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I think Tri Mark is a good suggetion for the perkins guys that do just the paper supplies and equipment. Thats what perkins should have stuck with but it to late because they devoted so much into the food that Tri Mark ate there lunch. I still think some of the guys that tips 100 was talking about that only do 25k a week would do better at a real foodservice broadliner like a US/Sysco or even Agar. If they could offer there customers the full range of products that the customers want instead of the stupid items the buyer are stocking they would do better. Go on the perkins website and look at what they have in food and you would think they were a convenient store distributor. Its a joke to expect the salesman to go into the foodservice market selling chocolate bars and italian gummy bears to the foodservice trade. Thats why i say perkins needs to get rid of panton, rafealson and crawford for allowing money to be wasted on this non salable product while good vendors products get less attention.

MrFood
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    Jan 12, 2009 at 02:30 AM
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Originally Posted by DPR02054

Hi, any vendors or salesman hearing any rumblings about Perkins?? Im an employee and getting worried working here. Word in the office is we are borrowing weekly from banks, slow in paying vendors and losing business left and right. Anyone know if we are for sale? rumors in the office are that the 2 brothers have had it and want out. Also any broadliners hiring in Ma?? There are a few of us that want to move.

There is one broadliner, Ginsbergs, in Hudson, NY, who is beginning an expansion into Massachusetts.  They just got a very large contract away from Sysco Albany, and look to work as far east as Springfield, Northhampton.  Good Luck.

paperman
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    Jan 12, 2009 at 09:30 AM
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Is Ginsburgh a re-distributor like Bunzle? or a full end user distributor?

MrFood
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    Jan 12, 2009 at 01:13 PM
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Ginsbergs is a full broadline distributor, about $125 million.  Serving Eastern NY, down to and including Westchester, out to Binghamton, and up to Lake George, Southern Vt., Western Ma, and Western Ct.  Family owned.

FoodPro100
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    Jan 12, 2009 at 04:18 PM
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Ginsbergs is a great company to deal with. I didnt know they were making there way up to Massachusetts. If they do they would be a good fit for the Perkins salesman looking for a smaller family run business with the big broadliner feel fo products. These perkins salesman that are doing 25k a week would be a good fit for Ginsberg but maybe risky depending how they could service the perkins accounts. From what it looks like perkins is already a mess for these guys accounts the last thing they need is more screw ups. I also here that the accounts receivable at Perkins is the worst it could ever be and I heard today a multi unit switched to another distributor and stuck them for over a 150k. Some of these sales guys at perkins are not that good at collecting money and i suggest anyone that interviews any of the food guys at perkins ask for there receivables info so they keep a tight rope on there accounts.

paperman
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    Jan 13, 2009 at 02:28 PM
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Wow..saw Ginsbergs web site..one hell of a company...
FYI.....Grumblings from the other salesmen are that AGAR in their meeting on Friday have put a "go after Perkins" hit list....they must be reading this site and see we are "f"d up.  
FoodPro100
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    Jan 14, 2009 at 08:15 PM
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The difference between an Agar and perkins is Agar is liquid. Perkins keeps borrowing for there DC and any additions or aquisitions. I wouldnt want the CFO's job over there. The CFO who handles this is worth every penny he's paid. I cant see how any independants can survive in these times if they dont at least own there facilty. Alot of independants that borrowed when times were good to keep up with the larger broadliners will have a tough time making it through the next couple of years. Who knows maybe Agar will buy Perkins someday. They have the capital.

tired
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    Jan 15, 2009 at 07:53 PM
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I finally have had enough of the angry messages that are being posted on this site about Perkins. I have been with Perkins for many years and can tell you that my sales are doing well. The veterans at Perkins know whos writing all this nonsense. Ever since we brought on the Famoso business its been a disaster for us. The accounts we brought on from this aquisition are low margin and half of the business has either left us or dont pay there bills. The salesman from Famoso have been angry since the day Perkins bought the company and its been a nightmare ever since. The chemistry is terrible and I understand that management made a mistake with the aquisition but I also understand they have alot of money invested in Famoso and have to try and make it work. Its obvious that even the chemistry with the vendors from this aquisition are not a match and its also obvious that they to are posting messages on this site. As far as the salesman from Famoso that are posting this garbage they should be ashamed and feel lucky to have a job with Perkins. Our company has been feeling the economic pressure from all the money we are losing on trying to make this program work and the thanks management gets is these ungrateful losers writing these lies and hurting our company. I am amazed at how many times a day we salesman that work hard for our company are asked about these rumors. I seriously hope that management puts these ungrateful low lifes in the unemployment line and finally get the satisfaction of ridding the garbage thats hurting our reputation. Lets see how happy they are when the direct deposit on there pay checks stop.

FoodPro100
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    Jan 16, 2009 at 06:52 AM
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I guess your referring to me about the angry vendors. I will agree that the Famoso acquisition was foolish and made no sense although we did a nice volume with them. its obvious the only party that made out on this deal was the 2 brothers that sold it to perkins for stupid money. Perkins shouldn't feel bad about this because there not the first distributor to buy smoke and mirrors. Ask PFG with Cambi or Vistar with Piancone. That's what happens when you have the big corporate high paid dopes running these corporations and making bad deals. I guess in your case with Perkins it was Crawford. I dont think we are done seeing guys like Bob Crawford talking owners into more bad deals in the future.
Tips100
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    Jan 18, 2009 at 05:21 AM
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Heard yesterday in our sales meeting that perkins is one of the only independents so far to start layoffs on salesman. we already knew of the 30-40 people lay ed off earlier but now we heard that 8-9 salesman have also been let go. The theme of our meeting was that our company was not going to have lay offs as Perkins. Good luck over there. i can tell you that our company is on perkins like white on rice. i think its time to call the truck leasing company and send back some of those pretty trucks with the employees plastered on the sides. i wonder if your photo is on the side of one of the trucks and your lay ed off if they go as far as taking your picture down off the truck?

paperman
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Registered: Dec 21, 2008
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    Jan 19, 2009 at 07:35 AM
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I dont know how you guys find out this stuff about us,its almost like you have an inside source.Yes we did get rid of some sales people,unfortunitly like TIRED said we didnt get rid of whats bringing the company down,the foodservice bums.I was wondering today where can you make almost 70k a year and work from home.I havent worked on the street since last Weds and
maybe I shouldnt be complaining.I guess if they are so busy worrying about the foodservice people us paper guys can coast.I went on a couple of interviews and Perkins definetly over pays for what they get.....GOD BLESS THE PERKINS BROTHERS....AS LONG AS THEY ARE HANDS OFF WE ARE OK....
Tips100
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Registered: Dec 31, 2008
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    Jan 21, 2009 at 05:38 PM
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you must be close to retiring because that's pretty sad if your home and being paid 70K. That's a pretty good salary. hard to believe though. To get paid 70K you have to be doing at least 60K a week. If the two brothers are paying you that kind of money for anything less they are  dumb asses and if that's the case anybody reading this should apply at Perkins for a job because they have to be pretty desperate to pay these types of salaries. These guys aren't that bright either and have a hard time spelling the town (Taunton) that they work in. Alot of you Perkins salesman are lazy for sure. I have several accounts that don't buy from Perkins because the salesman never shows up to take an order or even call. I am surprised that they don't have district meetings over there to catch the under achievers. We just had ours at our company and there are heads on the chopping block which is OK by me. You have to hustle today to make a buck and if a company has losers like the guy (paperman) that thinks its ok to stay home and not work than they should be fired.

papergal
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Registered: Jan 21, 2009
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    Jan 21, 2009 at 05:54 PM
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Anyone know what happened to the Eastern Paper business that Perkins bought? I worked for Eastern before it was sold to Perkins and knew that we were in trouble at the time of sale. The owner was a good friend and employer and helped me land another job with a competitor before he sold. I notice alot of Eastern employees are not with Perkins anymore. One of our biggest accounts was Staples and we knew we were going to lose the account because of service issues and that's when the owner figured he would sell the company while he still had the account. I'm pretty sure Perkins must have lost Staples shortly after buying Eastern. I was happy to see my boss sell it for good money before he lost it all. I remember my boss telling me that Larry Perkins was not the smartest pickle in the jar when it comes to buying companies and that his brother Gary was just was just as naive. Any eastern people out there let me know so we can catch up! 

paperman
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Registered: Dec 21, 2008
Posts: 21

    Jan 22, 2009 at 10:26 AM
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I had my review the other day and I am safe so I must be doing something right.I know my sales are stable and I have great margins,because I stick with paper,so its up to me if I will stay or go.Ask around about the lay offs and you will see the paper people will always be safe,cant say the same for the food guys,you see it on their faces.FYI,I heard that we currently reviewing the status of our foodservice division and what parts of it might disappear. 

Tips100
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Registered: Dec 31, 2008
Posts: 22

    Jan 22, 2009 at 06:46 PM
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The problem with your thinking is Perkins do sent have an edge in paper products. All distributors carry paper now and the truth is they all work on smaller margins than Perkins. Why does an account need you for paper when they can get it from there food supplier for less money. I think this is the reason Perkins is trying to go into food because they see the day of the paper supplier is gone. You better learn the food trade buddy because if Perkins does sell out its most likely going to be a larger food service broad liner. As far as your food service guys that are getting reviewed they better hope they make the cut because from the couple I have seen on the street they have no chance anywhere else.

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